Why Western Liberalism Doesn’t Like the State of Israel

It has been over 80 years since World War II, and most European nations, at least regarding the governing elites, have been trying to make their countries less British, French, and German and less over trying to create a European identity.

From my experiences in a Western liberal education system, they don’t promote a love of country or a love of national identity. We are seen as individuals first and foremost.

People must remember that nations like England and France are ancient, over a thousand years old, with unique traditions.

Contemporary Western European nations ignore their history, and instead, they often export Americanism from the USA into our cultures.

Phrases like these are countries built by immigrants are nonsensical and make no sense in a European context. National liberal leaders are making a fake history.

I understand the need to integrate and make people feel welcome; however, it does mean lies should be told and fake myths should be made, which is building a society based on a lie.

This could lead to a crumbling national identity with diversity without nation-building, and integration is not suitable for society because people are naturally tribal.

In the English-speaking people’s context, we don’t see our tribes because, living in our societies, we don’t see anything different or understand anything different; therefore, it is taken for granted.

So, my nation, England, and its constitution are uncodified, like the Roman constitution built upon historical precedents and cultural norms that guide society’s governing.

A nation like that only works if its people know its history and identity.

The state of Israel, such as what you have stated, is entirely natural that the Liberals and the left, so that’s a very broad term, will be naturally very against a nation such as Israel.

From an only Anglosphere and Western European context, the state of Israel goes against the contemporary culture which has been developed over the last 80 years.

This article I have taken from a LinkedIn conversation on the topic of the state of Israel and why elements within Western liberalism and the society created in the aftermath of World War II are incompatible with the morals and the reason for the creation of Israel.

I shall leave this link so you can view the person’s response to my article, which you will find informative and insightful.

Here is The Transcript of the Author and Lecturer Alexander Rosenthal Pubul

Alexander Rosenthal Pubul: Yes — Zionism can be read in terms of European intellectual history as the nationalist response to European anti-Semitism. Nationalists of the 19th century believed in a bond of a people with common ancestry, ancestral homeland, and language. Hence the idea of an Italian state for ethnic Italians, a German state for ethnic Germans, a Hungarian state for ethnic Hungarians, etc… Anti-Semitism in the era was partly fueled by the belief that Jews were immutably ethnic outsiders, not”true” Germans, French, Polish, etc…

The liberal solution was downplaying these ethnic (and also religious) differences in favour of universal humanity. A Jew could simply assimilate into a secular (non-religious) and cosmopolitan (non-ethnic) liberal state.

The Zionist solution was for the Jews to adopt their own nationalism, revive the ancient Hebrew language, and return to the ancestral Jewish homeland (Israel).

I think this ALSO partly explains the migration of pro-Israel sentiments to the right. Western nationalists — like Donald Trump in the USA, Orban in Hungary, Marine Le Pen in France, Vox in Spain, etc… tend to be favourable toward Israel. The old nationalism was associated with anti-Semitism and the new Nationalism with pro-Israelism.

(I have made no significant alterations to their comment; I only changed some of the grammar to British English; this conversation was held on a public platform, and many people are welcome to join the conversation and contribute to the argument from both sides.)